Keloids (Treatments and Home Remedies)
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List of Selected User Comments and Questions (Click here to leave a new comment)
- When a keloid might not be a keloid
- Keloids that spread / recurring infections
- Surgery-related scarring and internal keloids
- Can tattoos lead to keloids?
- Apple Cider Vinegar can lead to irritation
- Special Precautions on using Garlic
- Keloid formation linked to Iodine Deficiency in diet
- Why most home remedies are not sold commercially by pharmaceutical companies
- Itching and pain associated with keloids
- Remaining scar tissue after successful keloid treatment
- Other possible methods/remedies recommended by commenters
What are Keloids?
Keloid formation is a topic that desperately requires more medical research and attention. Keloids are scars that have continued to grow past the size of the original wound. Some keloids occur on parts of the body that restrict movement. Some cause pain and itching.
They can afflict people of all races, but tend to occur most frequently across races with darker skin tones like Asians, Hispanics, Italians, and Blacks. Keloids also tend to be hereditary.
Why are keloids so difficult to treat?
Often, keloids grow larger with further injury. Treatments like surgical excisions and lasers can cause keloids to grow even larger.
Keloid treatment is also tricky because results tend to vary across treatments. Treatments like corticosteroid injections have worked well for some people, but made some cases worse, and others to work initially, then rebound.
Some TCM (traditional chinese medicine) has also worked well for some, but not all.
Newly-formed keloids also respond better to treatments than old ones.
Because of this, I can’t recommend anything as being the “definitive treatment”.
Instead I have compiled a list of treatments that have been known to produce results for some. Thus, a combination of treatments may be the best answer.
Commercial Treatments that may work:
- Silicone dressing
- Steroid injections
- Hydrocortisone cream
- Hei Ba Gao paste (TCM/traditional Chinese medicine)
- Tea tree oil
A lot has already been written online about the above commercial treatments so I won’t go into further detail here.
Home Remedies that may work:
- Make a paste by mixing one part baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and one part 3% hydrogen peroxide. Apply directly on keloid, and reapply as necessary.
- Apply apple cider vinegar (ACV) on the keloid and let dry. Re-apply every half hour and do this for at least several hours. If ACV is too irritating, you can safely dilute it with water. (Rebecca kindly shared her method of applying ACV here and described her progress here. Her keloid is 2 years old and on her chest. Anonymous also shared his method here.)
- Make a thick paste by crushing aspirin and mixing it with water. Apply directly on keloid, and reapply as necessary. (Sarah shared her method here, “First crush about 3 aspirin tablets into a powder. Then add only a few drops of water, until the mixture becomes a paste.
Apply it on the keloid with a Q-tip and let the mixture dry (about 15-20 minutes) and then wash it off rubbing gently with water. This can be repeated once everyday until the keloid goes away. I only did this twice along with the tea tree oil and it worked. Also, for anyone who just got a piercing, I would highly recommend H2Ocean antiseptic.”
- Garlic oil or crushed garlic (use with utmost caution and wash off should you feel too much burning)
- Potassium Iodide is another simple remedy that may work well on keloids. Apply it over the keloid several times a day until you see some flattening. Look for SSKI (Saturated Solution Potassium Iodide) at health food stores and pharmacies. If you cannot obtain SSKI or have difficulty doing so, a weaker substitute can be found in Lugol’s Solution. Lugol’s Solution is a simple mixture of potassium iodide, iodine, and water and can be bought at most aquarium/pet fish stores.
There are also claims that topical iodine application (usually used as an antiseptic on cuts and wounds) can minimize scar formation. Iodine has the ability to trigger natural cell death (or apoptosis). Thus, repeat applications of iodine on a lesion causes it to be replaced by new skin.
For more about this, I recommend reading Dr. David Derry’s article. In it, he says, “From my own clinical experience, repeated application of iodine to the skin appears to cause regeneration of the skin from the bottom up (stem cell) — eventually sloughing the old version of the skin off like a snake molting. If there was a pre-cancerous lesion on the old skin, it is replaced with new skin minus the lesion. There does not seem to be any skin lesions which are not helped or cured by this procedure.”
Here is another case study (pdf) of a housewife who was treated with Iodex (an iodine salve). She had an 8cm-long scar which restricted the movement of her toe. After 6 months of using Iodex, she regained a normal range of motion.
How the Home Remedies help keloids: Treating the infection underneath
The home remedies above are based on the belief that keloids form because there was an infection (either bacterial or fungal) left behind when the wound was first created.
Because the infection remained, the body creates excess scar tissue in response to the irritant. This effectively “encases” the problem infection by blocking it off from the rest of the body.
With the thickened scar tissue in place, blood circulation in the keloid becomes much more hindered. This makes it even harder for the body to slowly dissolve the scar on its own – so the keloid remains indefinitely.
And since the root of the infection remains buried underneath, the keloid remains volatile and will continue to produce more tissue should it encounter further damage or injury along the way.
Thus, treating the infection is the crux of the matter when it comes to the home remedy methods.
To jump-start the breaking down of your keloids, try fasting. Fasting has numerous health benefits, and I encourage you to read up more on the subject. Fasting can help because without food, your body will scavenge for dead and diseased cells and burn them up for energy. These includes excess collagen and abnormal cells like keloids and hypertrophic scars.
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Over time, this page has gotten a long list of comments. Some of these comments had valuable information in them, but I feared that they might also be overlooked by most visitors.
So I decided to create a “linked list” of the more significant comments according to topic.
I will update this list periodically as more comments come in.
Thank You to all the commenters for sharing!
List of Selected Comments and Questions
This section now includes extracts of the selected comments instead of mostly only links like before. Links to all the original comments are still included if you want to read them in full.
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1. When a keloid might not be a keloid
Many people have reported that they developed bumps shortly after getting piercings. Most of the time, these are not keloids but are simply infected bumps. If the bump resembles a blister, is soft to the touch and appear to contain some liquid, then it’s probably not a keloid. These piercing-related bumps can still be treated with the remedies though, and several have reported good results using ACV and sea salt soaks.
Chris said, “I just got a double eye brow piercing 2 months ago, within the last 2 days i noticed something that might be a keloid. He also said it “seems to be fairly soft to the touch, it has a bit of give when pressed lightly, it seems possible that it does contain fluids.”
Karen said, “It has been about a month that I’ve have a keloid on my tragus from a piercing I believe I did not clean well. Another keloid started to grow on the other side of the original keloid, so it was in my ear. Two days ago, the inside keloid “popped” blood…”.
Within a week Karen reported back to say that her bump had shrunk after her sea salt soaks, “My bump shrunk to half its size with the soaking! However, the bump on the inside of my ear is slowly growing back.”
Paulina commented with, “I just got my tongue re-pierced about 5 days ago and i have a small bump next to my piercing. i went back to the place where i got it done and they said it could be a keloid”
Mel said, “I’ve had my ear pierced for over 8 years now. I have a keloid on my right ear which is quite large. I am going to see a plastic surgeon next month to have it removed. That keloid developed soon after I first got the piercing. I have not worn an earing in either ear in close to 7 years. However I’ve noticed yesterday that the other ear, which has been fine all these years, has a small bump that is a bit painful. I am terrified that a keliod might be forming there as well.” She later reported that ACV successfully removed the growing bump on her other ear.
sam said, “i had piercing 4 yrs. ago, then my ear got infected because the piercing created a wound when i was about to put my earrings in, then after that i didn’t wore my earrings anymore but after a few weeks a bump in the back of my ear started to grow then after a few months it became larger and larger and and up to this time its about 6x the size of what was back then, is the bump in the back of my ear a keloid or something else”
Kirsty said, “I had my nose pierced approx 5 weeks ago and it has healed pretty well up until the last week or so where now it has raised skin up around half of the edge of the stud and bleeds a little now and then when I clean it. Its seems soft to the touch and similarly resembles that of a blood blister.” She later gave an update to say that it was an infected bump and not a keloid and that she successfully treated it with Betadine (Betadine is an over-the-counter iodine-based antiseptic). She said, “Every night since then I have applied it and it scabbed bit by bit and the lump has completely healed up apart from some slight redness which I put down to it being a fairly new piercing still. I now believe it was a small infection and Betadine is developed to heal that type of thing.”
- Hypertrophic/raised scars
Faye said “I have a scar that formed on my nostril after a scratch and the scar itself wont heal. It’s not a scab that forms, but it seems like overgrowth of flesh colored skin that can be picked off like a scab. On the occasions that it is picked off, there’s a small area that looks like an unhealed cut. The skin under the “scab” forms a small bump and it’s the same color as the rest of the skin.”
2. Keloids that spread / recurring infections
Marie first shared about her keloids that would get better then “return with a vengence”. Her steroid injections were not helpful and antibiotics didn’t work. Marie later kindly commented again to report that her recurring infections has stopped after using ACV twice a day. The keloid remains but there has been a “slight flattening” to it. It is also less red and itchy.
Marie reported back her results after using the ACV method for about 6-7 months. The keloids on her chest are now lighter in colour and the recurring infections have ceased. Althought her keloids are not getting smaller, they are also not getting bigger. She also advised other users of the ACV method not to rub in the ACV but just pat it on and around the keloid.
Update: Marie has come back with her long-term results/experience of using ACV, in that ACV has stopped working as her keloid has grown immune to it.
Marie wrote, “ACV helps during the initial weeks but the keloid has since turned immune to ACV. Every now and then the keloid on my chest ooze pus and it can get extremely painful. Seen G.P. and was given antibiotic on many occasions. I have also developed an immunity to antibiotics. Eventually I was referred to consult a skin specialist at the renowned National Skin Centre.
The Specialist told me there are two sinus tracks that where the pus is oozing from. Two cultures were taken with no bacteria found. The last option is to laser the keloid and try and clean out the tracks and hopefully keloid would grow and cover the tracks.
So with no other option, I went through a very painful laser procedure just yesterday. The laser itself was alright, its the first 3 injections and pressing the keloid to rid the sec of pus that really hurts. I will probably have to go for follow-up kenacort injections in the coming months which I dread. The Prof. who did the laser said he is not sure if this will help. So I can only look towards God for a miracle.”
Laura wrote, “I have had keloids on my chest for several decades. Originally they were both sebaceous cysts that were removed by a dermatologist, that had become keloids. Following that I had them reincised by a plastic surgeon, which only served to create two larger keloids. They tried giving me an androgen block creme, and later, cortisone injections (in the chest which I do NOT recommend); it was EXTREMELY painful!
Eventually, one of them flattened out a bit, but the hole of the injection site is still visible. I can’t say that It really helped, and now I will not do anything that is not a natural treatment. Over the years, I can say that I have had the redness of these scars seem to have MIGRATED across my chest/breast area. One previously whole scar, had now split into two smaller, red scars, with “normal” skin in between. It is very strange. As the scar tissue is quite dense, I try to massage the scars, though it is uncomfortable, but am hoping to help break up the dense tissue.
I should say that originally these mostly came about from “picking”. Though some of the migrated ones just came up out of what appears to be nowhere.”
3. Surgery-related scarring and internal keloids
Merlin developed internal keloids from surgery to remove uterine fibroids. She writes, “I did surgery to remove fibroids and a year after my surgery, I started to develop this swelling which became very painful especially during my menstrual cycle. Over the past years, it has become very hard and it’s only on one side of the cut that I have it.”
Amy’s keloids came from a mastoidectomy, or surgery behind the ear. She said “I have a round “growth” or “swelling” behind my earlobe – in the part that connects the head to the ear. It is soft, not hard like a cebaceous cyst (which I suffer from on other parts of my body). This feels like a water blister at first touch, but if you press more is a bit harder than softer. I am diabetic.
1) My derm said it was a cyst.
2) My ENT said it was a “skin infection”. He said there was nothing to drain. Put me on antibiotics 2x a day 300 mg. “
Ruth developed keloids accompanied with pain following several knee surgeries. She said “I have had several operations on my knee (years ago) and as a result I had developed a lot of scar tissue (keloids?) in there. I also have Chondromalacia. I have had pain in my knee since the operations.”
Joanna had keloids following a skin graft. Her keloids formed both on the donor site (her calf) and the recipient site (her thigh). She said “I had a skin graft done about six months ago on my calf and the doner skin was from the side of my thigh. Now I have Keloids on both of the wounds and the doner skin on the side of my thigh is 3×4 inches big and it is all Keloids. Before I had problems with the doner side I used Mederma and a had a bad reaction to it. So, afterwords my doner side was very itchy, red and had a bumpy texture.”
Mark’s keloids formed internally following spinal fusion surgery and are threatening to choke his nerve root sheaths. He said “Four months ago, I had Spinal Fusion Surgery. Now I am told that there is Keloid Scarring building up inside my back. Eventually it will choke off the nerve root sheaths. An MRI shows that the scar tissue is allready to dense to diferentiate between the scar or nerve tissue. Subsequently… no surgery possible.”
If anyone has any information that can help Mark, pls share it with us through the comments.
Wayne developed keloids following an otoplasty, or surgery to pin back the ears. He writes, “I had me ears pinned
back when I was 11 (28 now) and have had about 8 ops to remove the keloids surgically, they reform every time
and continue growing…”
4. Can tattoos lead to keloids?
Merlin asked, “could Keloids develop with Tattoos, as I am contemplating of getting one done.”
Answer: Yes, tattoos can cause keloids if you’re prone to getting them. If you do decide to get a tattoo, be sure to take extra precautions to avoid infection during the critical healing period. Keloid formation is also tied to iodine deficiency, so it’s a good idea to take iodine supplements prior to getting the tattoo and for some time after.
Alek mentioned his own experience post-tattoo, “i hav got something like keloid after having my tattoo done, the flowers with red ink got swollen, n kinda hard, ,black ink doesn’t, its been like this for 3 months, please tell me what should i do?”
If anyone has experience with tattoo scarring and healing, please share any insights you have.
5. Apple Cider Vinegar can lead to irritation (solution: dilute the ACV with water)
Apple Cider Vinegar applied on the skin can sting and lead to redness as it is quite acidic. To minimize any discomfort and the risk of further injury, it might be necessary to dilute your ACV with some water and/or reducing the number of daily applications. Sometimes a break may also be necessary to give the skin time to rest and heal.
Ian writes, “I tried using ACV and following your advise to another person applied it overnight to the affected area soaked into cotton wool. Unfortunately this resulted in a slight “burning” of the surrounding skin, leaving it very inflamed and dry.”
filly wrote “i have tried both apple cider vinegar and baking soda/hydrogen peroxide and it has some effect on my keloid. I found that after using acv it started to dry out my keloid, but also got my keloid very irritated to the point that it has grew a bit bigger. the acv is very harsh on the skin and it gives u a stinging sensation.”
filly’s 2nd comment: “after 3 days of ACV application on my keloid i can see something happening i have noticed that the color of my keloid has changed from darker red to lighter red and also it has gone softer. now im hoping that it will flatten my keloid after a month. i got to admit that it actually burns and sting when you use ACV. my theory is that when you use ACV its actually burning or cooking the keloid. its like applying a vinegar to a raw meat it will eventually will cook the meat.”
Amir used ACV pretty aggressively. He wrote, “I have been reapplying the ACV on the keyloid around 5-6 times per day, After the 1st day, every time I reapply the ACV, the keyloid stings for a while and gets kind of an intense sting at times, although I am bearing it. Occassionally, the keyloid bleeds as soon as I apply ACV on it. Also, the keyloid sometimes has some clear liquid forming on it. I just wipe it off and reapply the ACV again. I’ve noticed that some scabs have formed on the keyloid. I think it has flattened some, and narrowed as well, although it is hard to tell. It does appear to be breaking down however, as some parts of the keyloid are scabbed and some skin has “burned” off as the keyloid isn’t smooth anymore. Some places on the keyloid, it seems like more skin has “burned” off. Another thing is that the keyloid is more sensistive to pain. It slightly hurts when I touch the keyloid. And putting normal t-shirts on irritates the keyloid as the shirt is rubbing on it. It itches more often, and is more volatile, by giving those sudden twinging pains that those who have keyloids KNOW what I’m talking about. I just hope and pray that this ACV is working, because I do perceive the keyloid to be shrinking.”
Sharon Brown wrote, “I saw the comments about the apple cider vinegar and decided to try it. At first the keloid on my ear began to look so irritated, I almost stopped. I was putting a soaked cotton ball on it and used a band aid to hold it in place. The vinegar actually is dissolving the keloid, within one week my keloid is half the size it used to be.”
Chris wrote “I decided to try the ACV method (also drinking 2 tablespoons a day). I use a q-tip and just run it along my keloids on my jaw. It stings for a little while, but it’s not unbearable. I do this about 10 times a day. The keloids seem to have dried out, but they’ve also become very red”
Felix wrote, “I place a cotton ball with ACV behind my ear on the keloid and tape it in place. What I have noticed (I have been doing this for only a day) is that this seems to only make the keloid worse (maybe my imagination but I cannot be sure I’m already self-conscious enough about this).” Felix also talks about how his keloid tends to act up in winter. One year later, Felix kindly came back to share his update here where he also gave more details about the effect of the weather/changing temperature has on his keloid.
6. Special Precautions on using Garlic
Terri asked, “What do you mean by using caution on pressed garlic or garlic oil? Is some burning ok?”
My advice about using garlic as a home remedy was, “Raw garlic on the skin can be extremely harsh and needs to be monitored carefully. Some mild stinging localized on the keloid is okay and can be expected, but overuse easily injures the surrounding skin and the keloid itself (can lead to bleeding if left on too long, its that powerful).
If you do use garlic, protect the healthy skin around the keloid with a layer of Vaseline or other skin oil. It’s also best to take it very slow in the beginning so you’re able to understand its strength and effects first.”
7. Keloid formation linked to Iodine Deficiency in diet
Terri was fearful of developing keloids following cataract surgery and wanted to know what she could do to minimize the chances of getting one as she is prone to getting them.
My advice to her was, “If you find that you’re prone to getting keloids, your body might be lacking in the mineral iodine. You can check with a very simple patch test – paint a circle of brown iodine over an area of your skin, like your inner arm or stomach. If the color disappears in less than 24 hours (i.e. your skin sucks it up), you’re iodine deficient.
Thus, its a good idea to get your iodine levels to a healthy point again prior to any surgery (or any type of skin injury for that matter) to prevent new keloids from forming. One way to do this is by painting your skin with iodine each day until you find that the color stays on the skin for 24 hours and longer.”
8. Why most home remedies are not sold commercially by pharmaceutical companies
Nowayz’s question was “does ACV truly helps? why i surf so many webs but none of professionals said dat can use ACV?”.
My response was, “You won’t find home remedies being promoted by pharmaceutical companies even if they work because these natural ingredients cannot be patented. No patent=No massive profits to be made.”
(Nowayz also later reported success in the drying of his keloid here.)
9. Itching and pain commonly associated with keloids (and when first using the remedies)
Emma wrote, “my keloids are in the chest, and they often itch. My keloids are caused by acne and pressed strongly by the nurse to let the thing in the acne out, but she did not succeed.”
Jules wrote, “My case is very similar to Dina’s – my keloid is on my chest, about 1 and a half centimetres wide and the same in length. It’s a dark pink colour, can get very itchy (especially after I drink) and hurts for no reason. I’ve had it since before 2003. I’m in my early 20s and it’s been a nightmare trying to find clothes that will hide it as nearly everything is v-necked and low-cut!”
Jules also kindly reported back later after using ACV, “I’ve been using ACV about 3 or 4 times a day, and it stings a little sometimes but not as badly as I mentioned before. My scar feels different now, it’s a little softer and I’ve noticed it’s flatter in the mornings (though this might also have been the case before i started using ACV). The big change is that the occasional sharp pains and itching have mainly disappeared, which is fantastic.”
10. Remaining scar tissue after successful keloid treatment (or my personal recommendation to read up on skin remodeling copper peptides)
Jules first wrote to ask if keloids can ever fully disappear, “…I am really keen to try the ACV after hearing what people have said. I understand that not everything will work for everyone, but I was wondering how much I can expect the scar to die down? Can it ever fully disappear? “
I responded here, “If the remedies work you can expect some flattening and an improvement in the color. The itch should also be gone. However, there might remain scar tissue from the original wound, so that it would resemble a regular hypertrophic (raised) scar.
Jules later came back with an update to say that ACV has helped with her keloid’s pain and itching. She wrote, “I’ve been using ACV about 3 or 4 times a day, and it stings a little sometimes but not as badly as I mentioned before. My scar feels different now, it’s a little softer and I’ve noticed it’s flatter in the mornings (though this might also have been the case before i started using ACV). The big change is that the occasional sharp pains and itching have mainly disappeared, which is fantastic. Let’s hope I will see some change in the appearance as well.”
More on copper and copper peptides:
To reduce (and possibly remove) this scar tissue, I recommend copper peptides. If you have some free time, read up on “skin-remodeling copper peptides” at http://www.scar-reduction.com. The website is a little hard to read but its worth the effort.
jo later asked me more about copper peptides and how they can reduce scar tissue when it is stated that they increase collagen formation. This led me to do some research. Below was my reply:
“Hi jo, that’s actually a very good question. I don’t know the mechanics of it well enough to give you a proper explanation, but I think copper peptides may work to replace the excess collagen (type 1 & 3 collagen) in keloids with the healthy type over time.
I also found this in Roenigk & Roenigk’s dermatologic surgery (By Randall K. Roenigk, Henry H. Roenigk), which you might find interesting:
“Excessive collagen deposition is a hallmark of keloids. Keloid scars are composed of both Type I and Type III collagen… The collagen cross-linking in keloidal scars has been shown to be abnormal. This has been postulated to be due to a decrease in lysyl oxidase activity. This enzyme is copper dependent, and keloids have been shown to be copper deficient.
Additionally keloidal collagen is more acid soluble than normal dermal collagen. The collagen found in keloids is less mature and less stable than that found in normal skin.”
I’m not sure if the “copper deficiency” part means anything or is just a coincidence… but regardless, it seems that not all collagen are alike.
The above is just an extract. If you want to read it in fuller detail, there’s a preview of this page in Google Books, page 612. “
11. Other possible methods/remedies recommended by commenters
- Cutting off the blood circulation to the keloid by tying it off with a string
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- Contratubex gel (from Germany)
khosbhoo used this gel for her burns. She wrote, “initially I applied contratubex gel (from Germany). it has decreased a lot. I mean 90% has gone (this medicine is a miracle) but I had to massage it regularly.”
- Healthier diet (more fruits and veggies)
Sarah noticed that her keloids improved following a change in her diet. She wrote, “Over the last few months i have been drinking 3-4 cups of green tea with lemon, pomegranates (read the health benefits in Wikipedia) and increased the amount of fruit and vegetables I usually consume. from all these things I have noticed a big difference in the size of them and some even appear lighter. I do understand everyone is different but you never actually know this could work for you.
Sarah later came back with an update about her progress and also about her diet, “Hey guys its me again…so I’ve been away for a few months, but thought i should just comment on the progress of my situation with keloid scars..as i mentioned previously, green tea with lemon has seemed to work for me. I have recently included the following fruits and vegetables in my diet; tomatoes (plum and cherry in particular), avocado, bell peppers and sweet potatoes…and not only do i feel a lot better but my keloids have definitely minimized in size.”
Thanks for sharing, Sarah! If anyone else has had improvements to their keloids following a change in diet, please do share.
- Foods that affect keloids
carolyn wrote, “I noticed that whenever I eat sugary foods, it grows or itches more. I just noticed this the other day and I wanted to see if foods or drinks can affect them or make them worse.”
rizwan wrote how red meat makes his keloids itch more, “I have keloid scars for about 15 years now… only thing i can recommend that try to eat more veg and fruits and don’t eat red meat coz when i eat red meat my keloid scars itches more .”
In an older comment, Jules wrote that her keloid itches more after drinking (alcoholic beverages), “My keloid is on my chest, about 1 and a half centimetres wide and the same in length. It’s a dark pink colour, can get very itchy (especially after I drink) and hurts for no reason.”
Anonymous wrote that white pepper causes his keloids to become very itchy. He also noted that his keloids grows/shrinks with his weight.
Irene’s father had a keloid that was infected with pus that wasn’t helped by steroid injections or antibiotics. She wrote how using Silicea helped:
“My father has a long keloid across his chest. For several years, it got infected with lots of pus. Steroid injections and antibiotics didn’t help. I put him on the biochemical tissue salts called Silicea for a few months. This prompted the keloid to discharge pus from several holes for a few weeks which was quite scary. After all this drained out, the problem has not occurred again, and the keloid has flattened out. Hope this will help somebody.”
- Tip for those considering surgery to remove their keloids
Anna kindly shared some advice from her dermatologist for those considering surgery to remove their keloids: if the surgeries are on problem areas that are susceptible to keloid formation, then the surgical incisions should be closed with a laser rather than traditional stitches as these could lead to stretching and further irritation, making post-op keloid formation on the surgical scar more likely.
- Kenalog injections and Cica Care gel sheets
Anonymous reported that his keloids “flattened and are less visible” with Kenalog injections and Cica Care gel sheets.
Nancy wrote that castor oil (Wikipedia link) seems to have made a difference to her keloid scar (which formed as a result of a chicken pox scar).
Iceni wrote that silver nitrate prescribed by a doctor is helping an infection and keloid on his little toe dry up. Iceni wrote, “Apparently this was a common anti- biotic way back to Egyptian times until after the first World War.But it came into disuse with the advent of modern antibiotics. I believe its efficacy is being studied again for use in humans. It is non toxic and apparently bacteria do not become resistant to it. Hope this helps someone.”
- Tip for preventing keloids in the first place: cover small wounds for a few days
Anonymous advised, “The most important is once when you have any very small wounds, you have to put plastic bandages on it immediately for few days”
Hi Samantha,
I have had a lot of acne problem for around 3 years. because of that have got 4 keloids on my chest and a lot of pits on my face. I want to go for flaxel laser treatment to get rid of these pits on my face. Thankfully i didn’t get any keloids on my face even when the acne i had on my face was much more severe than what i had on my chest. So can i be sure that the skin on my face is not keloidal and so i can safely go for flaxel treatment??? Please guide me in this matter as am totally confused wat to do!!
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Samantha Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Hi any, I would not recommend getting fraxel on your face if your skin has a tendency to keloid. Fraxel and other lasers work by burning the layers of the skin, which will be much more traumatic than acne. The risk is that you would not know what your healing response will be from that level of damage.
I’m sure you’ve done your research on fraxel lasers for acne scars, but in any case you might find it useful to read through the many reviews here http://www.acne.org/fraxel-laser-acne-treatment-reviews/298/page1.html. Some have good results but in overall, the outcomes appear to be mixed and rather unpredictable.
p.s: Have you considered other less invasive treatments such as dermarollers and red led light therapy? There is a good thread here on the EDS forum about dermarollers that you might be interested in
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=29250
I hope this helps.
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any Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 2:15 am
Thanks for your suggestion samantha. This has helped me a lot. The thread seems to be good. But Can i be sure that dermarolla is not that traumatic to cause keloids on my face or is it still risky??
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Samantha Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 5:05 am
Using a dermaroller on the skin would be much less invasive than fraxel as the top layer of the skin remains intact. The collagen rebuilding happens beneath the surface over a period of several months to a year.
A few points to note, however:
- There will usually be redness that lasts a few days after dermarolling. You might have to be more vigilant about sun protection during that time.
- There may be some blood spotting/pinprick scabbing with more pressure applied. Usually, the needles are too short and too tiny to cause scarring. However, there is a risk of “catching the skin” with longer needles. To be cautious, especially since you want to avoid keloidal scarring, you can consider rolling with shorter needles or rolling more lightly (although I am not sure if very short needle lengths will have any effect on acne pitting).
- Keeping the dermaroller sterile before disinfecting before and after use is quite important to minimize the risk of infection.
- The science behind dermarolling appears to be good. But to get better results, you may want to incorporate other things that have worked for others (eg vitamin C seems to be important during the collagen rebuilding process).
Finally, I suggest reading as much as you can about dermarolling before deciding to try it. It’s not a quick fix and it will take several months for visible results. And to be fair, there are also user accounts of people saying that dermarolling has not helped them at all. These seem to be in the minority though.
I wish you all the best!
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Samantha Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 5:13 am
I forgot to add, it might be a good idea to post a question in one of the active EDS dermaroller threads asking if anyone who has keloids has also managed to use the dermaroller safely on their facial skin. It doesn’t hurt to ask, and who knows, you might get lucky?
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I’d like to know if anyone has successfully had a tattoo done over a keloid lesion? Please advise. Thank you.
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So I have a keloid on my chest and one on the side of my neck.
They are really small, and its from when I got sick with this weird
sickness that looked like chickenpox, but wasnt. Regardless I got
sick with something that gave me open sores and they scabbed but
some left the horrifying.. keloid.
I have one right smack in the center of my chest,
I’m trying the AVC treatment, and I hope it works.
I’m on the 3rd day and so far all I can tell is that
it seems to be more red.. but there is a brown spot in it which
I’m thinking is a scab.
I’ve also read very good things about tea tree oil, is that a better choice?
How long should I give ACV?
Thanks!
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Samantha Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Hi Anna, straight ACV can be very irritating so if you’re getting too much redness, diluting it with some water and applying it less frequently can help. It may take a few weeks before you’ll know if ACV is having any effect or not. The skin on our chests are also more sensitive so you may have to be a bit more cautious when treating that area. Tea tree oil can be a gentler choice.
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Anna Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Thank you – I’m not exactly sure whats going on.. I mean its kind of has brownish spots in it.. and its turning a darker color in parts of it. Do you know what that means? I’m going to get tea tree oil soon.
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